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we left yesterday
this coming from someone who listens to celine dion. wink.gif actually it is true. juliana hatfield rocks and has more balls musically then tori. i admit that i do like a lot of tori's earlier works, but she's not been as consistent for me as juliana has.
LightYears
QUOTE(we left yesterday @ Jan 9 2006, 07:01 PM)
this coming from someone who listens to celine dion.  wink.gif  actually it is true. juliana hatfield rocks and has more balls musically then tori. i admit that i do like a lot of tori's earlier works, but she's not been as consistent for me as juliana has.
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I hardly listen to Celine Dion.
Once upon a time when I was very happy, that song was there, and then sometimes (including the other day) I listen to that song (Drove all night) again and it takes me back to that place where I was happy, is that okay with you? Hardly an avid fan, I just love re-living moments through the feels and smells and sounds of a memory.

Jeez.

Tori's the bee's knees. (I just had to use a bee saying.)
LightYears
Tori Amos - Ode to the banana king

I have to sing along to this one every time. One of my favourite Tori bsides.


Gonna get caught in her rug, Babe.
This not a conclusion!
No revolution!
Just a little confusion on where your head has been
onlyglass
patrick wolf - to the lighthouse
fucked up blair23
QUOTE(we left yesterday @ Jan 9 2006, 05:56 PM)
juliana hatfield does a better job with that song. it's one of many highlights from in exile deo. juliana hatfield is amazing and better than a lot of what's out there when she's on. including liz and tori for example.
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i love juliana with all my heart. her rendition has sent my heart aflutter many many times. but you gotta hear dot allison's cover. it's dreamier. it's just a different song. the strings are eliminated to give way to this totally unsettlingly pretty space. i love it. dot's other songs are more techno than this but in tomorrow never comes, she gets you with subtlety.
still, i love juliana. you don't have to sell her to me. i've been sold for years.

hey, are you a member of her message board?
we left yesterday
didn't know she has a message board. god another addiction.
redlight
Texas - Inner Smile

baby

I’m ready

I’m falling into you
fucked up blair23
here she comes - slowdive

It's so lonely in this place,
so cold I don't believe
and there's no one knows my name

It's easy to pretend
It's easy to believe

There's a shadow on my wall
It dances like my soul, dances like my soul

It's so cold now, i swear it will be warm
Here she come now
verbal daggers
For me todays song is flower. mainly cause we had PE and the boy im lusting for was doing it and This song sums up the way I felt and it been in my head for that reason
Every time I see your face mellow.gif
I get all wet between my legs
Every time you pass me by
I heave a sigh of pain

Every time I see your face
I think of things unpure, unchaste
I want to fuck you like a dog
I'll take you home and make you like it

Everything you ever wanted
Everything you ever thought of
Is everything I'll do to you
I'll fuck you and your minions, too

Your face reminds me of a flower
Kind of like you're underwater
Hair's too long and in your eyes
Your lip's a perfect suck me size

You act like you're fourteen years old
Everything you say is so
Obnoxious, funny, true and mean
I want to be your blow job queen

You're probably shy and introspective
That's not part of my objective
I just want your fresh young jimmy
Cramming slamming ramming in me

Every time I see your face
I think of things unpure, unchaste
I want to fuck you like a dog
I'll take you home and make you like it

Everything you ever wanted
Everything you ever thought of
Is everything I'll do to you
I'll fuck you till your dick is blue

Every time...
we left yesterday
damn! i really am old. everyone grows up so much faster these days. hell, when i was in school the thought of lusting anyone never crossed my mind. of course i come from the stone age. now where's my cane?
QuieroPhair
Agreed.

That kid is a freak.
LightYears
Don't be so hard on him.

I'm sure I was lusty when I was 14 Hehe.
QuieroPhair
The song is about rape!

Being 15 and wanting to rape someone is... unnatural.
we left yesterday
not to mention the fact that the song is meant for adults anyway.
QuieroPhair
Agreed, Exile for 16 and up please. (or those who can handle it at any age)
LightYears
Well I've been a Liz Phair fan since I was, Umm, 12 or 13? Though that was with WCSE.
LightYears
Also, I wouldn't say "Flower" was so much rape, there's no mention of anything about a power balance and it just comes out more as a very lustfull want.
QuieroPhair
Forcing sex upon the unwilling is rape.

Even if it is a woman against a man.

Liz draws power by creating a female character who is being agressive in a sexual manner typical of males.

It is role reversal.

There is the balance of power.
LightYears
Where does it say forcing sex?

The song isn't about rape, it's a joke.
It's about mocking those teenage geeks who are fascinated with porn and making some gorgeous sex-obsessed women (like in the movie where those geeks bake up a robot sex machine.). Liz is joking and saying "Yeah, I'm her, come take me boys!", but she's mocking them - she has no real interest in them.

The rock guys of Exile think they can have any girl they want, Liz is mocking, she's saying "Honey! I'm that girl",

It's over the top.
QuieroPhair
No, I think it is mean to be frightening.

Over the top and graphic I agree with, but not the humour
LightYears
I still don't see rape.

If it's not a joke, I just think it's the most rough, over the top, explosive desire of lust to have sex so dramatically with someone. (But I still think it's a joke, pandering to the geeks who expect to find some perfect sex-needed woman who will just come to them and do everything.)

"I put a song in there that lets it loose," she says (on flower)
LightYears
QUOTE(QuieroPhair @ Jan 10 2006, 08:54 PM)
Forcing sex upon the unwilling is rape.
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It never says unwilling, and it doesn't force.

It's all "Wants".
fucked up blair23
i tend to agree with lys. i think flower, along with many of the songs in girlysound, there's something mocking with them. it's a very heady intention she has, something about this warped play with a baby girl voice and really dirty words. one can listen to the song and just take it as this avant garde electronica, or have it be an anthem of sexuality or just be all meta and take it as this song that arouses but actually makes fun of the arousal and the aroused. i love it when liz can induce this kind of interest.

by the way, my song of the day is the chilling rendition of strange fruit by tori amos. when she says, smell of burning flesh, i seriously got goosebumps.
LightYears
QUOTE(fucked up blair23 @ Jan 11 2006, 03:45 AM)
by the way, my song of the day is the chilling rendition of strange fruit by tori amos. when she says, smell of burning flesh, i seriously got goosebumps.
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I love that song, Have you heard her cover of "A case of you"? That's one of my favourite Tori covers.
jivafox
Blondie - X Offender
redlight
A Camp - The Bluest Eyes in Texas

The bluest eyes in Texas are haunting me tonight. Like the stars that fill the midnight sky, her memory fills my mind.

I'm utterly besotted with this song.

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verbal daggers
QUOTE(we left yesterday @ Jan 10 2006, 07:38 PM)
damn! i really am old. everyone grows up so much faster these days. hell, when i was in school the thought of lusting anyone never crossed my mind. of course i come from the stone age. now where's my cane?
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Well me and u have kinda had this descsion before


QUOTE(QuieroPhair @ Jan 10 2006, 08:37 PM)
Agreed.

That kid is a freak.
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U dont know the half of it
but my I ask u why u have come to that conlusion?

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not to mention the fact that the song is meant for adults anyway.

Teens are the most hory ppl around how can this not be for them?

Todays song is
Tom dinner
as my morning was strangly close to it huh.gif
I am sitting
In the morning
At the diner
On the corner

I am waiting
At the counter
For the man
To pour the coffee

And he fills it
Only halfway
And before
I even argue

He is looking
Out the window
At somebody
Coming in

"It is always
Nice to see you"
Says the man
Behind the counter

To the woman
Who has come in
She is shaking
Her umbrella

And I look
The other way
As they are kissing
Their hellos

I'm pretending
Not to see them
And instead
I pour the milk

I open
Up the paper
There's a story
Of an actor

Who had died
While he was drinking
It was no one
I had heard of

And I'm turning
To the horoscope
And looking
For the funnies

When I'm feeling
Someone watching me
And so
I raise my head

There's a woman
On the outside
Looking inside
Does she see me?

No she does not
Really see me
'Cause she sees
Her own reflection

And I'm trying
Not to notice
That she's hitching
Up her skirt

And while she's
Straightening her stockings
Her hair
Has gotten wet

Oh, this rain
It will continue
Through the morning
As I'm listening

To the bells
Of the cathedral
I am thinking
Of your voice...

And of the midnight picnic
Once upon a time
Before the rain began...

I finish up my coffee
It's time to catch the train
we left yesterday
since we had this descsion about this before, what did we decide on?


also i'm not sure if teenagers are the most horny people around. and i don't believe that flower was written for teenagers at all. quite the oppossite in fact.
verbal daggers
QUOTE(we left yesterday @ Jan 11 2006, 08:02 PM)
since we had this descsion about this before, what did we decide on?
also i'm not sure if teenagers are the most horny people around.
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Really name one person hornyer (?)than a teen boy?

and we did really come to a conclussion but I just thought we should agree to disagree seems we both made our points and views clear.
LightYears
Hey, Teens are like pumping with hormones and testosterone.

Clearly they're the most horny.

Aside I, who is just saintly.
we left yesterday
i always found the time of being a teenager too awarkward to be horny. plus at that age you don't really have any clue of what to do with your hormones. besides i still think that flower wasn't written for horny teenageers. flower would go over a lot of teenager's heads anyway.
LightYears
I don't think Flower is for teenage boys. I never said that...you can't prove anything!

Anyway,

Well, basically, I said it was for those, you know, 19(ish) year old geeks (The ones who never got over Warhammer, and what not) who want to bake up a perfect sex godess who just wants sex with them, and you know, they live off their computer, and Flower is mocking them. It's like an "Haha, Baby, I'm that sex obsessed plaything..." over the top lie.
mylastview
Aslyn-Be The Girl
wirewalker
Hole = doll parts

Fion@pple = Tymps ( the sick in the head song)
Fion@pple = oh well

Stefanie Sun = Venus
Tori Amos = cloud on my tongue

Lisa Germano = way below the radio
(And i'm waiting for you
I am here
Nothing much, going nowhere
In the in and out and in to something
I forgot give me some personality
Having fun way below the radio)

The wannadies = no holiday
fucked up blair23
And you said
And you did
And you said
You would find me
Here and you said that you would
Find me even in death
And you said
And you said
You'd find me


I CAN'T SEE NEW YORK - tori amos

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LightYears
That's one of my favourite Tori Amos songs.
The last line "from the other side...I hum" is so dramatic and sad. The entire song is epic and beautiful, I love it to pieces. Especially lines like "Soul blue print" and "I know his lips are warm, but I can't seem to find my way out of your hunting ground..." which are so expressive and really highlight the complete innocence of this victim, how non-essential her death is to the terrorists, like she just stumbled in a hunting ground and is now stuck.
I love the dvd version where she's on the fenders and the bose. It's so beautiful. She looks like she's going to cry.

Another epic Tori song for moi...

Tori Amos - Garlands.
fucked up blair23
i love i can't see new york. i don't care much for the i can't see new york part but when she goes, in a painfully frazzled voice, and you said and you said. i just felt her.

hey, what's that site again with explanations to her songs? i'm in the mood for reading.
redlight
Cat Power - Colors and the Kids

Y e l l o w h a i r

Y o u a r e s u c h a f u n n y b e a r


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verbal daggers
Divorce Song liz phair
cant stop playing it
we left yesterday
QUOTE(verbal daggers @ Jan 12 2006, 06:59 PM)
cant stop playing with it
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LightYears
QUOTE(fucked up blair23 @ Jan 12 2006, 06:33 PM)
i love i can't see new york. i don't care much for the i can't see new york part but when she goes, in a painfully frazzled voice, and you said and you said. i just felt her.

hey, what's that site again with explanations to her songs? i'm in the mood for reading.
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You need to get in the zone, hon.

www.yessaid.com is the one you're thinking of.

There's another awesome one about the "who? what? where?" of her songs, where they explain any person's names, place names or references so you can see the songs fully.
BB2
Liz Phair - Love/Hate

I got Liz Phair for Christmas(I had been listening to a downloaded copy for two years). I finally put it in today and listened to Love/Hate. It turns out that for the last two years the Love/Hate on my burned copy was the alternate version. This is first time I have ever heard the real Love/Hate. Lightyears that is why I said the demo Love/Hate sounded the same as the actual because I had the same song. I feel stupid!
jivafox
Jewel - Everything Breaks Sometimes
LightYears
Nice song choice. I like the DVD version.

Tori Amos - Garlands.

Still stuck in a washington Square of both my own invention and Specimen Days, and Garlands, but hey, what do you do but take ahold and go along with it.
fucked up blair23
kate bush - mother stands for comfort
LightYears
QUOTE(fucked up blair23 @ Jan 13 2006, 08:36 PM)
kate bush - mother stands for comfort
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Weird, I read that just as The Big Sky finished and Mother stands for comfort came on.

I think "Hounds of love" is my favourite Kate Bush album.
fucked up blair23
we're soulmates.

/me holds lys.
hahaha


i hate a lot of kate bush now. i can only take some of her songs.
QuieroPhair
I've never heard any of her music.
LightYears
One of her most effective songs is "The Fog" or "Under Ice" or "This Woman's Work", which I heard playing on an NSPCC advert!

If you come on MSN now, I'll send you one.
QuieroPhair
I'm at school so I cant sad.gif
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