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It was hard not to feel awash in nostalgia at Liz Phair's sold-out show at the 9:30 club Thursday night. Looking back, after all, was the point. Phair was there to play her classic indie-rock album, "Exile in Guyville" -- all 18 songs, start to finish, from "6'1" " to "Strange Loop" -- and the enthusiastic 30- and 40-something crowd was along for the retrospective ride.

Fifteen years ago, when the album came out, Phair also played a show at the 9:30 -- at the club's old location, a dark, dank shell at 930 F St. NW that left a seemingly toxic stench on concertgoers. Phair's grit was more readily apparent, too: At 26, she kept her head down and plowed through the set, stopping only to apologize for her stage fright.

No such nerves were on display Thursday. Phair, a seasoned performer whose sultry good looks have not changed in a decade and a half, seemed at ease from the first note and looked genuinely moved by the audience's response. Or as she put it: "You guys are the best [bleeping] crowd. I swear to God."

Playing guitar with a three-piece band behind her, Phair cruised through such songs as "Soap Star Joe" and "Mesmerizing." The manipulative wit of "Girls! Girls! Girls!" still packed a punch, and for "Flower," a song so dirty it would make Prince stammer, she enlisted the help of two female fans to sing along. Still, nothing topped "Divorce Song," a crushingly bleak ode to a failed relationship that revealed itself again as perhaps the best breakup song ever written.

Early on, Phair had signaled that this would not be a late-night affair and that it would wrap up in time for anyone interested in getting home to catch the main event at the final night of the Democratic convention. "Nobody's gonna miss Obama tonight," she said. "Not on my watch." True to her word, the 70-minute show ended a little before 10, and she and her fans returned to the present.


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she'z zo zexy

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Liz Phair began the live rendition of her 1993 debut, Exile in Guyville, by thanking the 9:30 Club’s sold out crowd for its enthusiasm, which continued through the night. The 9:30’s DJ had warmed the crowd with hits from Guyville contemporaries like Urge Overkill’s “Positive Bleeding” and the Afghan Whigs’ “Gentlemen,” and expectations were high.

I’d first seen Phair on the original Guyville tour at Minneapolis’ First Avenue, and while that show was far from bad, the 15 years since the legendary album’s release have served Phair’s stage abilities well. Foremost, she now holds the guitar on her hip in true gunslinger form. At First Avenue, it was clasped under her armpit like she feared it would make a break for the exit, and she did her best to blend in with her touring band. At the 9:30 Club show, however, Phair stood out in front and engaged the crowd, hopefully putting the tired stage fright story line to rest.

After a carbon copy of Guyville’s third cut, “Glory,” Phair answered the question of many an audience member:

“By the way, no one is going to miss Obama tonight. Not on my watch.”

This led to wild applause, and then she ripped into “Dance of the Seven Veils.” Aside from a slight slip at the start of “Soap Star Joe”, the rest of the show was tight and professional. And Phair’s voice is as strong as ever, evidenced by the high notes she hit in “Explain it to Me.”

Guyville’s bold and raw lyrical content is often cited as the reason for the album’s greatness. I embrace that assertion, but it was always the album’s music that drew me in. She rocked on Guyville, and from the basement no less. It was also a refreshing antidote to the grunge movement. The highlights of last night’s show were “6′1″,” “Never Said” (with her touring band hitting the backing vocals just right) and the foot-stomping charge of “Johnny Sunshine.” The grooves on “Mesmerizing” were deeper than the album cut and came with double the swagger.

Two lucky fans were plucked from the audience to accompany Phair on the audacious “Flower”. Much blushing and giggling ensued. My favorite cut from Guyville, “Divorce Song”, however, lacked the recording’s final tight jamming frenzy. Instead, Phair used the album’s closer, “Strange Loop”, for displaying her ax skills, dueling with her touring guitarist.


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coolchick275
Ohh...if only she weren't wearing a bra top!

I wish Liz would realize that she doesn't have to sell her body to sell her music.
phairphreak
She has a smoking hot body, I would be strutting it about too if I were her.

I think anymore she is truly comfy in her own skin, both figuratively(sp) and literally.

Zexy indeed.
katefan4
QUOTE(coolchick275 @ Aug 30 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]149293[/snapback]

Ohh...if only she weren't wearing a bra top!

I wish Liz would realize that she doesn't have to sell her body to sell her music.

I, like, totally agree...
phairphreak
I am pretty sure that the people at that concert are kind of fans already.

Don't ya think, Alanis?

Take away her sexuality and you take away most fo her career. I mean, EIG?!?!?!? Not a Sandy Duncan recording.
coolchick275
Yeah, but there's a difference. Back then, she was using her body and her sexuality as a way to express herself and give a big "fuck you" to all the people that told her that "nice girls don't" and that girls can't be sexy or show off their body because it's shameful. Now...it seems like she's just selling herself. Not to mention the fact that her "sexy" outfits aren't that sexy or cute. They're kind of tacky. I feel kinda bad saying this, but some of her skimpy outfits just reek of desperation.
katefan4
QUOTE(coolchick275 @ Aug 30 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]149464[/snapback]

Yeah, but there's a difference. Back then, she was using her body and her sexuality as a way to express herself and give a big "fuck you" to all the people that told her that "nice girls don't" and that girls can't be sexy or show off their body because it's shameful. Now...it seems like she's just selling herself. Not to mention the fact that her "sexy" outfits aren't that sexy or cute. They're kind of tacky.

I was trying to think of a response to all this myself & saw your post, M & just couldn't really say it any better.
And, NO, I am NOT bashing Liz Phair as an artist or person (before anybody gets started on Marci & myself).
Predatory Instinct
From this male's perspective, I agree with Phreak, Liz has one smokin' body and I for one very much enjoy her showing it off. If ya got it, why not flaunt it I say! cool.gif
phairphreak
Like her "selling out" with LP, you can only sell it when you don't really want to be doing it. And clearly, Liz likes to show off her goodies. More power to her. She looks better than most 20-somethings.
wooden and alone
you know what i think? by now, her choice of outfits is just her taste. being sexy is just a part of her now. i don't know what happened in L.A. but i think she's just one of those women who like dressing sexy. the magazine pictorials? i don't know what the hell she was thinking back then. but now, i think she just really likes dressing that way. she has totally embraced the sexy bihotch in her. and cricitizing someone for the way they like dressing, because they feel totally confident with their body is just ummm... i forgot the word. or i don't wanna say it.
baudrillard
nicely put Fub.

juke-box-hero
QUOTE(phairphreak @ Aug 30 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]149506[/snapback]

Like her "selling out" with LP, you can only sell it when you don't really want to be doing it.


I guess I'm confused by what people mean when they say Liz "sold out" by doing her 4th album. I was at the concert in Boston last night and talked with a diehard fan in line and he said, "What do people expect? Liz isn't 16 anymore. She writes different now than she did back then." He want on to say that each album was a good progressive step from the previous one.

I'm probably in a minority as LP is my favorite of Liz's albums, yet it wasn't a commercial success. Only had 1 song to chart the Billboard "Cold 100" and to the best of my knowledge the album never went gold.

In an article a few weeks back in Billboard, it stated...

For Phair, the financials have been impressive. Two June "Guyville" shows, at San Francisco's Fillmore (1,298 capacity) and Chicago's Vic Theatre (1,400), were sellouts, with an average gross of $31,787. In contrast, Phair's 2003 tour posted an average gross of $18,174 from 17 shows reported to Billboard Boxscore.

If the above is correct then perhaps Liz sold out by going back and doing the old material. After all, she's making more than 1 1/2 times what she was making per show than just 5 years ago...and in an economy now where people aren't going to concerts as much as they were 5 years ago. Anyhow, I've never liked the phrase "selling out." I remember one famous rocker said, "When someone releases an album, they want it to be a success and they don't want it to do bad."

Incidentally, the only reason that Led Zeppelin (certainly never considered a "pop" group by any stretch) didn't have the biggest tour of the year.....because Robert Plant wouldn't rejoin his old bandmates. "Problems getting along with old bandmates?" you might ask. Hardly! Plant is making more money touring with Alison Krauss than he has made in almost 30 (!!!!!) years since Zeppelin disbanded.

Like the saying goes, "When they say 'It's not about the money,' it's about the money!"
Perfect Misfit
To me the outfit looks comfortable, very casual. Like something you'd just wear around the house, not something you'd wear in FHM or Stuff. I don't think she looks desperate at all.
coolchick275
Maybe "reeks of desperation" was the wrong phrase to use. What I meant, is that, to me...let's see...how do I say this so that it makes sense? Okay. That outfit makes me think that maybe she's afraid to let the music speak for itself. Like she doesn't think her music is good enough for people to listen to without much provocation, so she has to give them something else (ie. her hot body will draw them in). Does that make sense? I don't know. It's like she's hoping that people will come to her because of her body, but stay for the music. Whereas, we all know that Liz is talented enough that people should just come for the music and stay for the music (her attractiveness and "hotness" should be at least secondary). You know? She's talented enough that she doesn't have to sell her body to be successful, because she has REAL TALENT.

I'm not trying to bash Liz. And, you know what? If she likes dressing like that, more power to her. People should be able to dress in whatever makes them happy. But, I can't help but feel a little disappointed.
phairphreak
But that is just her. She ahs always dressed more or less sexy. She wore a friggin' slip on the cover of Rolling Stone! I would feel weird seeing her in a turtle neck, lol.
phairphreak
What do you know - still smokin' hot. laugh.gif
darkening_days_end
QUOTE(phairphreak @ Aug 31 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]150309[/snapback]

But that is just her. She ahs always dressed more or less sexy. She wore a friggin' slip on the cover of Rolling Stone! I would feel weird seeing her in a turtle neck, lol.



I always thought that Liz looked sexy in a tuttle neck sweater...
jackstpaul
Why does this topic come up (so often)?

A lot people--including some here--are engaging. in rank speculation about why Liz does what she does. And so what? Liz does what Liz does fer her reasons. If I had my way, Liz would do Playboy, but I'm not going to judge her for not (un)dressing the way I like, so why are other people? I'm just a fan of her music. I either like her music or not. The rest is irrelevant. I don't need a hero or a role-model, and I don't expect other people to be or do what I want them to.
topfuel
Supercool thread....thanx!!
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