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jammindude
I've been looking here for awhile....and I have to say its been a very interesting read.....

I'm getting a chance to see things from the other side of the fan base for the first time....please allow me to explain.

For the better part of the last 25 years....I have usually been on the leading edge of most musical trends. I usually catch the buzz LONG before it becomes the standard.....by the time it gets popular, I'm usually sick of it....complain that the artist "sold out"...and have moved on to something else.

As an example....I'm from the Seattle area....I remember when Nirvana was a bar band.....by the time they exploded, it was old hat to me, and I was trying to figure out why people in Los Angeles were wearing flannel when its 100 degrees outside....(we've always worn it cause its convienent.....too cold for a t-shirt, too warm for a jacket). Same thing with Soundgarden....I was a BIG fan of their first couple of albums......the rest of the world caught up with Badmotorfinger, and I thought that album sucked. Jane's Addiction...same thing. Metallica was another one. I was the only Metallica fan in my high school in 1984......when they hit the big time in 1991 with "Enter Sandman" I had one reaction.....

W.......T..........F.......?????

As I've grown older (I've always been a bit of a "metalhead")...I expanded my tastes to all forms of music. I even learned to admit that there was good and bad in almost every form of music.....(except country...lol)....even pop music had some people that were doing some new and interesting things with the genre....they just weren't as popular....you really have to dig.

One example of this (and some might argue that it's a stretch to call him pop....but its just "well done, interesting" pop) is Matthew Sweet. Even though is songs are very simple...there is a charm to them. Even "Blue Sky Over Mars" has some really cool stuff going on if you take the time to listen to it.

This is the part where I get to Liz.

One day...I'm listening to the radio (something I NEVER do anymore...but it was my wife's car and she had left it on) and I hear "Why Can't I?" on the radio. Now.....I usually hate this kindof stuff, but this one just attracted my attention as being a really cool pop song along the same lines as a female Matthew Sweet. I didn't even know who it was....I had to find out later that it was Liz Phair (who I had *heard* about, but never checked out) and that the song was two years old. (like I said....I tend to listen to "word of mouth" stuff and ignore anything that comes out of a radio)

I go to the library and get this CD.....and I'm hooked. I LOVED every song on the album. It was *kinda* like some of the female artists out there....but ALOT sexier and edgier.

When I logged on here....and discovered to my horror that this time *I* was the one who had jumped on the bandwagon too late.....I had an epiphany and had to laugh inwardly at myself.

I still say that "Liz Phair" is an *extremely* strong, solid, sexy, edgy pop album.....I'm just coming at it without the perspective of her previous work....but maybe now that just gives me some homework to do....


......I think I'll start by trying to give a new listen and fresh perspective to Badmotorfinger and Metallica's Black Album.....

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Cherub's Ass
That's great that you love 'Liz Phair' the album... now go and listen to 'Exile in Guyville' , 'Whip-smart', and 'Whitechocolatespaceegg'... they are all stronger albums, and if you thought the lyrics were smart on her self-titled, well just wait.
Got My Own Thing
Cherub's Ass is right, EXILE, WHIP, and WHITE are awsome as well you should give them a listen.... oh and the girlysound tapes !! smile.gif
Erebus
QUOTE(jammindude @ Oct 16 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]75154[/snapback]

I even learned to admit that there was good and bad in almost every form of music.....(except country...lol)... [snip]

When I logged on here....and discovered to my horror that this time *I* was the one who had jumped on the bandwagon too late.....I had an epiphany and had to laugh inwardly at myself. [snip]
re the country crack: Hey! Today I was in Burger King (yes, I know) chowing down on Value Meal #1 when the Burger King soundtrack rolled over to "Still the One" by Shania Twain, which I hadn't heard in about a year and had even prompted me to buy that album back when it was a country rage. Didn't hurt that they followed it with Badfinger's "Baby Blue".

Not that I'm ever anywhere near any kind of cutting edge, I know what you mean about being late to the party and loving a group's later album. The Meat Puppets' "Too High To Die" is part of my desert island collection, so imagine my chagrin at learning the Puppets cognoscente hardly deign to mention it. Same way with The Damned's '86 "Anything" which I bought for their cover of Love's "Alone Again Or". (I once heard that one while shopping at Safeway. The Damned at Safeway. Maybe the old folks are right about the world going to hell.)
QuieroPhair
That is a very interesting depressing lifestyle, heh.

I've only limited experience with being in the know, one example is Promiscuous (N. Furtado.) I knew about it and was listening during the spring, and by mid summer when it was all the rage, I was done with it, having heard it 10000 times. And to think it just caught on here in my college. It's gonna be a long fall...



You're gonna love Exile In Guyville.
jammindude
QUOTE(Cherub's Ass @ Oct 16 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]75155[/snapback]

That's great that you love 'Liz Phair' the album... now go and listen to 'Exile in Guyville' , 'Whip-smart', and 'Whitechocolatespaceegg'... they are all stronger albums, and if you thought the lyrics were smart on her self-titled, well just wait.


The lyrics were touch and go.....some of it was really good (I was really touched on a personal level by "Friend Of Mine") others, while not being very insightful, were still fun. There were lines from Rock Me that I liked, and lines that were also corny. I found a REAL guilty pleasure in "Favorite". There's one that ONLY someone like Liz Phair could get away with singing. (It would come across *completely* different if it was sung by......oh.....Larry the Cable Guy for instance.) laugh.gif

Mostly I just *REALLY* liked the sense of a female artist who is very comfortable with her sexuality. There is no bigger turn off than when a women crinkles her nose and has that "ewwwww" look on her face at the first mention of sex. (I'm married.....I know this.... rolleyes.gif ) And there is no greater turn ON than someone who is very comfortable.......doesn't *HAVE* to be overt....but also isn't afraid to go there. I like that. cool.gif
QuieroPhair
Just buy Exile. haha.


No seriously.

Do it.
Cherub's Ass
Yeah, Whitechocolatespaceegg isn't as good as Exile, that's for sure, but I think that you would really like it because you started with the self-titled, so it's similar in that it is more produced than the rest of her stuff.
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