First reports have it at #17. If that holds it will be her highest debut and highest chart place ever.

Seriously!? That's incredible!

Where did u see/hear that it was at #17?

Wow, now it’s not even in the Top 50.
Skeery.
HItsdailydouble has a building sales chart that updates every five minutes (supposedly).

oh well.




(I see a dim future....I hear a drop...)

Here's the link to the sales chart that updates every 5 min. And yes, it really does.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

I'm still wondering where you got the #17 info. Liz does not appear on Billboard's top 200 either, that I could see.

i don't. the sales for somebody's miracle over at amazon have been amazing (as amazing as liz phair records go). it was in the top 30 and even in the teens up until the weekend. toiday it's at 43. i think this will be liz's biggest opening yet. and may well be her second time going gold.

When the chart was first came up at about 11:40 (so not 7:30 PST) it was at #17. Maybe that was the first day of sales, who knows.

it won't show up until wednesday. that when's the new chart will show up and reflect liz on there. the one on there is last week's chart.

Fiona looks like she might debut at #3 for the week. Good job. I am hoping Liz is like number 51 that is why she is not on there. These sales are depressing.

To be bested by Nickelback is down right sad.

And that chart hasn’t updated in well over a half hour at least.

ha.
you're right that is sad.


but I mean it's the inevitable...liz not selling records...her getting dropped from her label...her starting to smoke pot...her leaving l.a. and moving back to chicogo, without dino, and then selling paintings when she's 40-something and around 45 she releases a barely 10-track album under a local lo-fi recording label that was recorded in her small suburbian home...hmm..

what is it with you and pot? face it, liz will probably never do pot again. not as long as she has a kid in the house. for better or worse motherhood changed her. i think going back to pot would be the worst mistake. let's have liz re do exile over and over until she can't breath. her exile days are long gone. it's the past and it will always be the past.

I know, isn't it sad? she'll never be a great artist again. she's just like every once else...except years older, trying to do it.

Do you remember the number of units it said it sold for the first day?

It didn’t say it was for the first day it was just a guess on my part that she was in the top 20 because the majority sold were probably first day sales.

WOW!!!! ever the optimist there aren't you. i take it pot is better than non-pit liz. really, now liz hasn't sucked that bad lately. are you just a little pissed that liz wouldn't share the pot with you?

probably.
I need a doobie.
Just, I like say... fiona apple.
She has released 3 critically acclaimed albums
(can be compared to liz)
then,
Boom-
fiona what?
she releases a pop record inwhich was produced by the people who created the avril records and then sexes up her whole act and shitties up her lyrics.
wouldn't you be a tad pissed?
and even more that her next record happens to become a bit less mainstream pop but.....country/sheryl crowe-y

So more info came in and now Somebody's Miracle is at #35. These charts still have long way to go until we get all of the info.

where are you getting the country from? there is no country in somebody's miracle. nothing about liz is country. loretta lynn is country. dolly parton is country. randy travis is country. not liz phair. you must have some good stuff to be seeing this.

so...is that good for liz?
better than WCSE and LP I believe but not by much

LP and Whip-Smart debuted at #27. These numbers are far from final. Only 3.64% percent of the numbers are in so Liz can fall and rise either way. All of her sales are far from put in and so are everyone elses.

country is not that bad. why are you being so negative about liz's new country leanings? i mean, neko case is country, christ sakes and i think neko's work is better than liz's current work. by the way, check her out.

anyway. anyone else rooting for this one to tank? because what will happen if it doesn't. will liz continue taking the punches from the critics as long as she sells. hmm

i'm just kidding. of course, i want her to succeed. i mean, she has a kid to feed.

haha.
I actually...hope to see what will happen of her. Because if it tanks and tries to release another record like SM or LP then maybe she really is that determined to be popstar successful.

i dont hear the country either. i love country music but i dont hear it. if people are talking about new-country, well thats not really country.

yeah, i don't think a bit of honkytonk in "Got My Own Thing" makes Liz a classified country artist now.

everything to me reminds me of faith hill but post crossover. so i guess, the sound is country crossover, so MOR pop.

but country crossover isn't country.

yeah, i get it now.
i hope she went into appalachian folk instead of this direction. seriously.

I just did the math and if you divide the 1873 units up there so far by 7.46% that is done it comes out to 25,107 units. Not good numbers

Better than I expected. What do you want with the shite promotion she got. I have yet to hear the single on the radio.

Numbers can come in at a different pace so it might do better. Example Sheryl was in the twenties at one update now she is at #5.

I don't think Liz sounds country on Somebody's Miracle but some of the guitar riffs are definately copied from country riffs. On Table for One there is a really fine flamingo riff near the end of the song. Some really good picking on some of the others also. You can hear some Nashville if you really listen to the music.

Big update and now Liz is out of the top 50.

After being out for nearly two months, I FINALLY heard ETM on my local radio station today. 1st Time!

hmm
ETM....never played on the radio
ETM....never on VH1 with the exception for the week's run @ 5am in the morning
ETM...a flop.


I think capitol needs to rush in the next single.

Not so, on this weeks Top 20 Video Countdown at VH1, Liz's video for ETM was chosen as the "Flava Of The Week", meaning it is just outside the top 20 and rising. Hell, I see her video EVERY morning on VH1. Today it was on twice. Also, as it was mentioned earlier, SM is selling pretty good at Amazon. Today it is #35 up from #40 yesterday.

For it to be her second time going gold, it would still have to be 1998.

Whip-Smart was certified gold on March 13, 1998, and Exile in Guyville followed in its footsteps less than two months later, on May 6, 1998.

Even worse than Nickelback is to debut lower than the Pussycat Dolls!

FUCKING GROSS.

ok then it might be her 4th time going gold then.

It'd be her third. Neither whitechocolatespaceegg nor Liz Phair have gone gold.

it'd be her fourth. why can't i went gold.

I think the discussion is about albums going gold, not singles...

yes i know, but why can't you count singles as well? it's liz first single going gold and you'd think people would be prouder than this. i count it. it counts in liz's overall sales.

is anyone shocked? for real? that this album might not sell all that great?
What i see here - is a white rabbit stuck in a chain link fence.
sure - we all have our opinions about it cuz we're fans.
but the mainstream?
What is one good reason why ANYONE out there in record-shoppin-land would buy this album?
Maybe they would download it. No reason to buy it, unless you're a fan and want to support her.
let me start by saying i LIKE Somebody's Miracle...but it is easily her most "forgettable" album. the songs aren't TOTAL shit - but ironically - this could hurt her more!
the fans she was picking up with the self-titled album - are going to be VERY disappointed in this record.
I know, I know... a few will like it - but a couple of young teen girls i used to work with who LOVED the s/t album - are saying "this one is kinda boring".
It doesn't pack the mainstream punch that most of us HATED (or LOVED) the first time around.
she would have been better off just bloody PICKING a side.
Either do another SUPER CATCHY, cheese-pop album filled with avril lavigne and kelly clarkson type songs - or do a nitty gritty old school "fuck you industry" album with long trippy instrumentals, weird guitars and husky vocals.
but she's TOTALLY stuck in the middle.
the image i get - a scared rabbit - caught in a chain link fence.
both sides are ganging up on here - asking her "what the fuck happened?"
Hell - the "WHY CAN'T I" fans even have the right to say "What the FUCK!? She's not writing songs as good as Why Can't I - like she used to!"
I feel seriously bad for her.
Unless some genius marketing comes up - or they pick a next single VERY carefully and sell it to the right teen movie.... this album is going to REALLY hurt liz's career.
she's either gonna go back to school to get that grad school diploma she made mention of - or she goes bye-bye from Capitol and will be left with nothing but fragments and shards of what was ONCE a really promising career.
personally - i hope she makes it either way now. it'd be great to get another KICK ASS album from her...but if that can't happen.... she at least deserves to get rich.
also - i don't think she is as badly in the poor house as we think she is. isn't there a blurb about her saying she is living in an "insanely nice" house that she just "can't afford".
Translation: "I'm living ABOVE my means - which means I'm really not that poor at all - if i just got a modest home like every other working artist out there, and stopped trying to act like some fucking Hollywood party-girl that i probably will NEVER be."
It's the whole fitting in thing, that i think has ALWAYS bothered liz.
she is NEVER going to fit in anywhere.
does she not see this as a GOOD thing? why in the world would you want to sound like ANYONE else??? unless yer a wannabe - and liz is too good to be a wannabe.
now i'm ranting. i'm waaaaay up North in Canada right now - so the altitude is getting to my head.
disregard everything i've said.
seriously.

I love the album. Most of my friends (even non-Liz fans) really like it.

But watching you guys fight over stupid shit that doesn't really matter again is fun.

Yea, I like this album too. I guess I am just easily pleased.

And Liz will never be poor, her parents are rich as Roosevelt.

Oh, and it sits at #43 right now with almost 50% reported. Something like 11k sold.