I say-
Giving it all to you
this songs has a chance to actually be a hit, bigger than ETM.
here's my order for SM singles:
2. Giving it all to you
3. Stars and Planets
4. Table for One
Table for One, has a chance to be a more universal hit imo, because it's one of the more emotional and acoustic songs on the album that has meaning as well as a good tune.
Stars and Planets is a nice pop song too, but I see it being less successful than GIATY.
I do not see ETM as a hit, or even a good single, I think Capitol should rush in the next single
Full Version: Next Single For SM
I think "Got My Own Thing" would make a great single.
If they want this puppy to move some units I would say release Stars and Planets next then Got My Own Thing and Everything (Between Us).
S&P needs a fun video of Liz with guitar letting loose and shaking it.
I was going to vote "I don't care, the album sucks" But I do care about her, So I voted the title track.
It's just 'cause it's easy to pick up and get in your head.
You all talk about Got my own thing and Stars and planets, but I can never remember how they go.
It's just 'cause it's easy to pick up and get in your head.
You all talk about Got my own thing and Stars and planets, but I can never remember how they go.
Then you obviously haven’t listened to the cd enough to even give it a fair critique.
Stars and Planets goes:
Hey there poopy poo walking down the avenue you just keep walking and keep on poopin’
QUOTE(LightYears @ Oct 7 2005, 08:27 PM)
I was going to vote "I don't care, the album sucks" But I do care about her, So I voted the title track.
It's just 'cause it's easy to pick up and get in your head.
You all talk about Got my own thing and Stars and planets, but I can never remember how they go.
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It's just 'cause it's easy to pick up and get in your head.
You all talk about Got my own thing and Stars and planets, but I can never remember how they go.
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well ok. a bit much but ok. different stroke indeed i guess. odd man out here.
You gotta remember, if I'm not listening to music, I'm writing music, or I'm just singing or playing the piano.
And I will always be writing in my head or singing something in my head.
I've listened to SM a few times, but since then, it's just been a no-no. And it's gone from my memory now.
All I was saying is, I still remember how the titletrack goes. I wasn't being mean. I just remember it.
Calm yourself.
And I will always be writing in my head or singing something in my head.
I've listened to SM a few times, but since then, it's just been a no-no. And it's gone from my memory now.
All I was saying is, I still remember how the titletrack goes. I wasn't being mean. I just remember it.
Calm yourself.
oh i'm quite calm. far more relaxed than a coke dealer high at a police station. you write huh? i hear that a lot where i live. everyone's a musician. they're a dime a dozen. i think it'd be fun to be a monkey grinder.
I voted Got My Own Thing just because when before the album was released that station in Chicago I think was playing that the most of any song on the album. It shows a station likes the song. Its catchy and could be a good to bridge the gap between both fan bases that would get both listening. Giving it All to You and Count on My Love would work if you want to go the full on pop route. Somebody's Miracle is a horrible single in my opinion.
Wow just realized Lazy Dreamer would work too. My cousin just walked in when it was playing and she is into all things popular(rap, r&b, pop). She is your average radio listener that follows trends. She started dancing to the song when it came on and she seemed to really like it. She is the audience Liz was going for with Why Can't I?
Got My Own Thing imo, would not work. It's too awkward with it's mix of country and it's annoying choruses to be successful mainstream.
i disgree. there is nothing country about this? have you even heard country? where the hell's the twang? no, i think got my own thing could be a good choice.
i voted got my own thing but i gotta say, nova is kind of right, picking giving it all to you as a more hit song. i don't know what audience liz is targeting but something tells me the label wants to target the teen market again so GIATY can work. but with the choice of everything to me as the lead off, it's all confusing. are they going for housewives or teens? gah!!
I'd say in order of what I'd pick for next:
Wind And The Mountains
Got My Own Thing
Stars and Planets
Wind And The Mountains
Got My Own Thing
Stars and Planets
I love WATM but it would not work as a single, no way.
Giving It All to You. Its so fucking catchy and has more chances of being a hit than Got My Own Thing I think.
QUOTE(phairphreak @ Oct 7 2005, 09:29 PM)
Then you obviously haven’t listened to the cd enough to even give it a fair critique.
Stars and Planets goes:
Hey there poopy poo walking down the avenue you just keep walking and keep on poopin’
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Hey there poopy poo walking down the avenue you just keep walking and keep on poopin’
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I really dislike "Got My Own Thing"...I think "Closer To You" or "Giving It All To You" would both be HUGE for Liz.
closer to you would pretty much kill sales. while closer to you is a great song, it's way too slow for radio. radio wants something peppy and poppy. not something that will put listeners to sleep. keep in mind i love closer to you.
You're right,, DHT's cover of Listen to your Heart was a huge flop. 
dht's song though is a poppy and peppy song, where closer to you isn't. slow songs or ballads aren't as big as they used to be.
what the fuck is DHT?
DHT is a "group" that released a cover of Roxettes "Listen to your Heart" that is HUGE in the US. And they released TWO versions, a BALLAD and a dance mix. The BALLAD went to NUMBER ONE. So again, I think weleftyesterday is typing out his ass.
Oh you typy poo wide eyed poopy poo act like Snoopy and eat my poopy.
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I really dislike "Got My Own Thing"...I think "Closer To You" or "Giving It All To You" would both be HUGE for Liz.
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QUOTE(phairphreak @ Oct 9 2005, 10:22 PM)
Oh you typy poo wide eyed poopy poo act like Snoopy and eat my poopy.
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That one made me fall off my chair almost.
I really love SM and I keep singing random parts of it (so did my mom after hearing parts of it once 
) but stars and planets is super catchy too "we all shine shine shine" annoys me a lot more than "there goes some other fairytale, wish it could happen to me" though. So I voted SM.
) but stars and planets is super catchy too "we all shine shine shine" annoys me a lot more than "there goes some other fairytale, wish it could happen to me" though. So I voted SM.
QUOTE(QuieroPhair @ Oct 9 2005, 05:35 PM)
no.
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whooo QP!
I haven't seen you make a smart comment in a while's.
But I agree with Cal though
Got My Own Thing....suxxorz
lolz lolz
(actually GMOT I hope gets released because it would flat on it's face just like Whip-Smart did as a single back in 95')
why do you want her to fail so bad? do you have some vendetta against liz? jealous she got all the looks?
you and phairphreak are a matchmade in heaven
um, ok. are you running a fever?
She is just young and dumb and full of poop.
LMAO
need to. it's the biggest thing you've got.
I have a feeling "Somebody's Miracle" and "Lazy Dreamer" or "Giving It All To You" will be the singles for the album.
I Think Lazy Dreamer and Stars and Planets will be the final singles.
I like Got My Own Thing the best, but it ought to be the third single. My guess is they go with Somebody's Miracle to continue establishing the sound from ETM.
right
What about Closer to You?
I love that song!!!!!
What about Closer to You?
I love that song!!!!!
Everybody wants to play marketing manager. Who the fuck cares what "does well"?
Wind and the Mountain is a beautiful song, another Liz classic that is already giving me great pleasure.
And I'm amazed at how many songs on this album are good and listenable. I keep waiting to be disappointed and she doesn't. Some of you seem to WANT to be disappointed.
Wind and the Mountain is a beautiful song, another Liz classic that is already giving me great pleasure.
And I'm amazed at how many songs on this album are good and listenable. I keep waiting to be disappointed and she doesn't. Some of you seem to WANT to be disappointed.
good point there. sometimes we can get wrapped up too personally in an artist we love. and when that artist does something we don't like it hurts us more than it rationally should. i've been guilty of it. sometimes it hard not to.
Agreed. It's called cognitive dissonance, and it makes people lie to themselves sometimes about what they like and don't like. (You spend $20,000 on a car, you force yourself to like it even if you don't really.) I'm as bad as the next guy, and I do want to like a new Liz album.
But for me the test is in time. Do I keep listening? A few tracks on the last album I didn't like, but I kept listening to the others, still do. And I can tell I'm gonna keep listening to more than a few on this one.
And I am truly amazed. IT IS NOT EASY to keep cranking out good, listenable music. Maybe that's why it irks me that people are so hard on her sometimes...
But for me the test is in time. Do I keep listening? A few tracks on the last album I didn't like, but I kept listening to the others, still do. And I can tell I'm gonna keep listening to more than a few on this one.
And I am truly amazed. IT IS NOT EASY to keep cranking out good, listenable music. Maybe that's why it irks me that people are so hard on her sometimes...
When this poll was created, I voted for "I don't care, the album sucks." I still pretty much stand by that, but I just have to say this about that:
I had the pleasure of listening to "Everything (Between Us)" earlier today, and I've gotta say that this song is probably the only one on the record that could conceivably be another hit on the radio for Liz. It might be a bad idea to try 2 ballads, one right after the other, but this song is so much stronger than "Everything to Me" (wow, 2 tracks on the record with that word in the title -- LAME). It has a major hook, way more major than anything on "Got My Own Thing" (which would never be the hit you all are convinced it could be). I can't believe that no one voted for it in this poll. The lyrics are nothing special at all, but that's good for radio. You don't want to get in the way of the listening public's obliviousness.
To me, this is like the Capitol records, post-makeover version of something like "You Have No Idea", the fan favorite that only exists on a bootleg of Liz's show at Town Hall in New York, 1995. Whereas that song has signature quirky-Liz lyrics (her skewed attempt at lovelorn sincerity: "But I would talk my mouth off / if I thought, ah yes, baby / it would glue you forever / to me"), this one has ... completely ordinary words, but the sentiment is pretty much the same. Well, kind of.
I'm haven't drunk the Somebody's Miracle kool-aid, so don't worry. I'm not really a mushy love song kind of guy (in other words, I would never say that "Shatter" is my favorite song on Guyville, and I think anyone who counts "Beginning to See the Light" as a favorite is a poor sap), but the chorus of this song was no doubt stuck in my head the whole time I was shopping at the supermarket this afternoon. I can't lie about that.
Discuss.
I had the pleasure of listening to "Everything (Between Us)" earlier today, and I've gotta say that this song is probably the only one on the record that could conceivably be another hit on the radio for Liz. It might be a bad idea to try 2 ballads, one right after the other, but this song is so much stronger than "Everything to Me" (wow, 2 tracks on the record with that word in the title -- LAME). It has a major hook, way more major than anything on "Got My Own Thing" (which would never be the hit you all are convinced it could be). I can't believe that no one voted for it in this poll. The lyrics are nothing special at all, but that's good for radio. You don't want to get in the way of the listening public's obliviousness.
To me, this is like the Capitol records, post-makeover version of something like "You Have No Idea", the fan favorite that only exists on a bootleg of Liz's show at Town Hall in New York, 1995. Whereas that song has signature quirky-Liz lyrics (her skewed attempt at lovelorn sincerity: "But I would talk my mouth off / if I thought, ah yes, baby / it would glue you forever / to me"), this one has ... completely ordinary words, but the sentiment is pretty much the same. Well, kind of.
I'm haven't drunk the Somebody's Miracle kool-aid, so don't worry. I'm not really a mushy love song kind of guy (in other words, I would never say that "Shatter" is my favorite song on Guyville, and I think anyone who counts "Beginning to See the Light" as a favorite is a poor sap), but the chorus of this song was no doubt stuck in my head the whole time I was shopping at the supermarket this afternoon. I can't lie about that.
Discuss.
I don't need to try and write cute, I say Giving It All To You. It's the closest thing to whats hot right now on Top 40. It has the same urgency that Since U Been Gone has.
*pass the Kool-Aid, Jim*
*pass the Kool-Aid, Jim*
QUOTE(JeremyEngle @ Oct 19 2005, 04:27 PM)
When this poll was created, I voted for "I don't care, the album sucks." I still pretty much stand by that, but I just have to say this about that:
I had the pleasure of listening to "Everything (Between Us)" earlier today, and I've gotta say that this song is probably the only one on the record that could conceivably be another hit on the radio for Liz. It might be a bad idea to try 2 ballads, one right after the other, but this song is so much stronger than "Everything to Me" (wow, 2 tracks on the record with that word in the title -- LAME). It has a major hook, way more major than anything on "Got My Own Thing" (which would never be the hit you all are convinced it could be). I can't believe that no one voted for it in this poll. The lyrics are nothing special at all, but that's good for radio. You don't want to get in the way of the listening public's obliviousness.
To me, this is like the Capitol records, post-makeover version of something like "You Have No Idea", the fan favorite that only exists on a bootleg of Liz's show at Town Hall in New York, 1995. Whereas that song has signature quirky-Liz lyrics (her skewed attempt at lovelorn sincerity: "But I would talk my mouth off / if I thought, ah yes, baby / it would glue you forever / to me"), this one has ... completely ordinary words, but the sentiment is pretty much the same. Well, kind of.
I'm haven't drunk the Somebody's Miracle kool-aid, so don't worry. I'm not really a mushy love song kind of guy (in other words, I would never say that "Shatter" is my favorite song on Guyville, and I think anyone who counts "Beginning to See the Light" as a favorite is a poor sap), but the chorus of this song was no doubt stuck in my head the whole time I was shopping at the supermarket this afternoon. I can't lie about that.
Discuss.
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I had the pleasure of listening to "Everything (Between Us)" earlier today, and I've gotta say that this song is probably the only one on the record that could conceivably be another hit on the radio for Liz. It might be a bad idea to try 2 ballads, one right after the other, but this song is so much stronger than "Everything to Me" (wow, 2 tracks on the record with that word in the title -- LAME). It has a major hook, way more major than anything on "Got My Own Thing" (which would never be the hit you all are convinced it could be). I can't believe that no one voted for it in this poll. The lyrics are nothing special at all, but that's good for radio. You don't want to get in the way of the listening public's obliviousness.
To me, this is like the Capitol records, post-makeover version of something like "You Have No Idea", the fan favorite that only exists on a bootleg of Liz's show at Town Hall in New York, 1995. Whereas that song has signature quirky-Liz lyrics (her skewed attempt at lovelorn sincerity: "But I would talk my mouth off / if I thought, ah yes, baby / it would glue you forever / to me"), this one has ... completely ordinary words, but the sentiment is pretty much the same. Well, kind of.
I'm haven't drunk the Somebody's Miracle kool-aid, so don't worry. I'm not really a mushy love song kind of guy (in other words, I would never say that "Shatter" is my favorite song on Guyville, and I think anyone who counts "Beginning to See the Light" as a favorite is a poor sap), but the chorus of this song was no doubt stuck in my head the whole time I was shopping at the supermarket this afternoon. I can't lie about that.
Discuss.
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Great song! I agree with you about the hook. Here the so-called over production actually works. Liz's voice is beautiful, and as I've said previously, the chorus is almost, God forbid, Madonna like. ( Does this song remind you a little bit of Madonna's "Crazy For You"?) I mean this in a positive way. Yeah I liked this song ALOT from the beginning. I think if Capitol wants to splurg a little on a decent video, I mean something GOOD, a concept video, not just Liz and her band in the rain, it could draw in the VH1 crowd like her "Why Can't I" video did. They played the SHIT out of that thing. Even if you didn't actually like that song, I thought the video was good. Now all you see is Sheryl Crow's "Good Is Good". I don't think that song is any better or stronger than Liz's ETM, but she does have a cool vid for it. No doubt that video has helped push her single up the charts. I think vid ideas would be endless for a song like "Everything (Between Us )".
QUOTE(phairphreak @ Oct 19 2005, 05:12 PM)
I don't need to try and write cute, I say Giving It All To You. It's the closest thing to whats hot right now on Top 40. It has the same urgency that Since U Been Gone has.
*pass the Kool-Aid, Jim*
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"Since You've Been Gone", Written by John Shanks, Produced by John Shanks.
"Giving It All To You", Written by Liz Phair and John Shanks, Produced by John Shanks
I have LOVED this song since I first heard the thing on Promosquad. I voted for this to be the next single. It gets my blood pumping!
One last thing, I can't believe I would ever say this, but ETM has really grown on me. The chorus, IMHO, is damn good and hooky as hell! I didn't hear it at ALL, on any radio stations around my neck of the woods, for the first two months the song was out, now I hear it played 2 to 3 times a day every day on at least three different stations. Finally, I'm hearing "Why Can't I" the other morning, around 7AM or so on a local station, and I'm singing along when it gets to the "we haven't fucked yet" part and I'm waiting for the edit to come in and NO EDIT. Right there on my way to work listening to Liz and singing along in my car and Liz singing "we haven't FUCKED yet" blaring over the air waves! Right on! Somebody's got a fine coming from the FCC.
QUOTE(XRay @ Oct 20 2005, 12:23 AM)
"Since You've Been Gone", Written by John Shanks, Produced by John Shanks.
"Giving It All To You", Written by Liz Phair and John Shanks, Produced by John Shanks
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No, Since you've been gone isn't a John Shanks song.
It's written by Martin Sandberg and Lukasz Gottwald. And it's produced by them too. And her other single, Behind these Hazel eyes, isn't a John Shanks song either.
As lambasted as EVERYTHING TO ME has been in here, it's still climbing the charts, slowly and steadily. By no means dead in the water. Granted, there's nowhere near the impact that, say, the new Madonna song has had, but then again, WHY CAN'T I took it's time to get to its peak too...
I'm beginning to agree with JeremyEngle (did I actually just type those words?!?) about GOT MY OWN THING not making a very good single choice. It's my favorite song on the album, and I can just see the sly smile/smirk on Liz's face as she's singing, but it probably won't work on radio. Honestly, I think the best shot she has at real airplay is COUNT ON MY LOVE. As reviled a song as it is, it's easily the most radio-friendly song on the album. I have issue with the chorus (so lame compared to the original PART OF ME chorus), and I get really sick of the whole "an umbrella when it's raining" line over and over again. She should have at least squeezed the PART OF ME chorus in there somewhere to break up the monotony, and thrown in a few other "protected/rejected" couplets instead of singing the same lines again and again, but hey, what can you do, right?
Anyway, I think this is the right next song, and would probably do really well on radio, which would hopefully respark interest in the album.
SOMEBODY'S MIRACLE would be a good single choice too, but it doesn't have the sunny energy that COUNT ON MY LOVE has, and after the slow, languid EVERYTHING TO ME, sunny energy is just what the doctor ordered.
I'm beginning to agree with JeremyEngle (did I actually just type those words?!?) about GOT MY OWN THING not making a very good single choice. It's my favorite song on the album, and I can just see the sly smile/smirk on Liz's face as she's singing, but it probably won't work on radio. Honestly, I think the best shot she has at real airplay is COUNT ON MY LOVE. As reviled a song as it is, it's easily the most radio-friendly song on the album. I have issue with the chorus (so lame compared to the original PART OF ME chorus), and I get really sick of the whole "an umbrella when it's raining" line over and over again. She should have at least squeezed the PART OF ME chorus in there somewhere to break up the monotony, and thrown in a few other "protected/rejected" couplets instead of singing the same lines again and again, but hey, what can you do, right?
Anyway, I think this is the right next song, and would probably do really well on radio, which would hopefully respark interest in the album.
SOMEBODY'S MIRACLE would be a good single choice too, but it doesn't have the sunny energy that COUNT ON MY LOVE has, and after the slow, languid EVERYTHING TO ME, sunny energy is just what the doctor ordered.
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